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Thu,
Sep 9, 2010 9:16 AM
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Nebraska
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why
not re-open
North Platte
NE
?
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Thu,
Sep 9, 2010 8:49 AM
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South Dakota
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We
do need a slaughter plant badly. Please open it.
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Wed,
Sep 8, 2010 8:39 PM
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Wyoming
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we
need this to happen now ,our gov. can not afford to keep careing for all these
unwanted horses
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Wed,
Sep 8, 2010 4:29 PM
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Washington
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I
do not think that re-opening a slaughter plant in the
USA
is in the best interest of horses anywhere. The proponents of slaughter are
constantly hollering about "unwanted horses". That is because there
are too many being PRODUCED. Instead of looking at better ways to kill them, why
doesn't the industry as a whole start looking at regulating breeding and
production more carefully.
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Wed,
Sep 8, 2010 4:23 PM
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Idaho
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When
I read where Dr. Temple Grandin would be involved I felt relief. I agree there
needs to be something. This plant seems like it could fill many needs. I am not
against humane euthanasia, but I feel sick when I think of how the slaughter
houses work to date.
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Wed,
Sep 8, 2010 4:17 PM
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Nevada
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There
is no unwanted horse, it's called overbreeding and getting rid of the one's you
don't want. Horses are butchered alive because the captive bolt was made for
cows. It's animal abuse. Horses to most Americans are companion pets, friends,
work partners and I think it is heartless to butcher an animal that has givin so
much. You don't want your over bred horses, call a vet and have him/her put
down. Horse slaughter is an American disgrace.
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Wed,
Sep 8, 2010 4:08 PM
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Colorado
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WY-Good
for you. Get this place up and running-Humanely! Due to the "Antis"
squeaky wheels they are causing needless suffering and neglect to these
wonderful animals. I, for one, wish there was a place for me to go when I am no
longer able to live a healthful and painfree life anymore.
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Wed,
Sep 8, 2010 3:37 PM
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Idaho
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I
think that they are on the right track but I believe that there has to be a
market value/worth for those horses. Without a value the horse owner still has a
pet and not a livestock animal.
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Wed,
Sep 8, 2010 3:07 PM
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Washington
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I
believe there has to be a painless death for equines that are no longer wanted,
sick, abused, or dangerous. There are too many horses in the
US
that are starving or not getting proper care because the owners have no way of
getting rid of them. For a large number of horse owners, having a veterinarian
come out and put your horse to sleep and then pay for a person to dispose of the
carcass is costly. Here in western Washington, its about 300 for the vet and 275 to 325 to the hauler. BUT, I would rather
see the carcasses go for other animal food or fertilizer rather than be shipped
over seas for human consumption!
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Wed,
Sep 8, 2010 2:49 PM
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Nebraska
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not
trainable as my own I euthanize when it is time. I do not let them suffer and be
broken down. I am 100% for this and glad to see it is progressing..there is
hope!!
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Wed,
Sep 8, 2010 1:44 PM
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Idaho
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I
am not a vegitarian but admit to having mixed feelings about raising animals for
the express purpose of slaughtering for food. I spent 30+ years raising AQHA
show horses so that I could produce horses that had a purpose that would
increase the liklihood of them having a useful purpose and secure home. When
financial conditions made it clear that even good horses were finding themselves
unwanted and uncared for, I quit breeding. I have an old mare on my place now
living out her final days in security and am the "mom" to 7 rescue
dogs. Just this spring lost my poodle who had been with me since she was 6 weeks
old and was 23 year, 9 months when she died. I can honestly say that I am a
life-long animal lover who has walked my talk for 63 years.
It is a sad
reality that without an option for humane end-of-life options, these animals
suffer a lonely, prolonged, painful end. A well-designed and regulated facility
for the humane end is a blessing to those animals whose time is up. To have a
plan to use the remains--now just a shell once the unique personality has left
it--makes sense in a world in need and gives a final sense of purpose to the
animal whose time is ended. Why is it any more reprehensible to use the meat for
designated purposes than it is for a coyote to consume it after a
"natural" death is a wilderness or for it to rot in the ground after
burial?
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Wed,
Sep 8, 2010 1:00 PM
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Washington
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Well,
isn't this all flowery and fluff. Nice wording for the loopholes of lies to
come. The reason it stopped here in the
US
in the first place, is people became lazy and apathetic in their duties. Not
enough money, to have enough people, with enough time to monitor. Oh, and we
know how well folks will monitor themselves with a great deal of integrity. A
recent example is the oil spill in the gulf. Big companies and contractors, all
pointing fingers at each other and not one with the cajones to own their stuff.
That will happen here too. And, for anyone thinking a stunbox is humane, you're
a fool. I think those who think it is such a great idea and an answer to all our
problems, you need to spend a day, maybe a week at the slaughter house of your
choice.
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Wed,
Sep 8, 2010 12:03 PM
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Washington
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Slaughter
is not the answer. Horses are a luxury pet, not bred for consumption. Until
horses are bred and raised for consumption, their slaughter is a betrayal. There
are far more unwanted dogs and cats, shall we slaughter them too?
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Wed,
Sep 8, 2010 10:42 AM
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Idaho
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Bravo,
It's about time. Keep them out of inhumane slaughter houses in
Mexico
and Canada. Just the drive there is inhumane. I love horses, but they are animals that God
gave us for our use, not abuse.
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Wed,
Sep 8, 2010 9:40 AM
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Wyoming
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What
is next...the 'humane slaughter' of people that are no longer usable...unsound,
abandoned, starving, abused or otherwise no longer wanted? We have already seen
the news reports of the 'humane slaughter' of cows and chickens. I believe that
this is a total oxymoron to use those two words together.
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Wed,
Sep 8, 2010 9:35 AM
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Colorado
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I'm
behind this 100% providing it can be done humanely. With all the people against
horse slaughter right now, if this plant isn't the flagship for humane slaughter
the chances for getting any more plants up and running will be
non-existent...and perhaps rightly so. Please do this right.
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Wed,
Sep 8, 2010 8:36 AM
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Wyoming
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Definitely
needed. If you want a horse put down you have to shoot him yourself or pay a
$70-90 to do it. Or you can sell him for $50 and put him on aq truck for a three
day trip to
Mexico
. people are letting them starve or turning them out with the wild horses to
impact the range and then starve to death.
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 10:34 PM
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Colorado
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I
have owned horses in the past and watch so many suffer through auctions,
"kill pens," hauling to Canada/Mexico, etc that I find it appalling
another plant would be considered anywhere, especially in the US. It's a shame
there are too many horses, or pets in general, but there needs to be a more
productive, humane way of decreasing the population like the
"spay/neuter" campaign for dogs and cats. Yes there are still too many
dogs and cats and not enough homes, but 4-6 million animals euthanized is an
improvement from the 50+ million killed back in the 1950's. I pray someday the
number will be zero.
Slaughtering
horses for human consumption is just not a suitable, justifiable way of
disposing on these gorgeous animals. There needs to be another way of
controlling the horse population and more assistance programs in place to help
people feed and keep their horses.
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 9:05 PM
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Montana
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I
think that it is a great idea. I do agree that there may not be any decent way
to put a horse down. But this is hands down better than what can happen. I have
read alot of the opinions and think alot of people do not have a clue about the
horse world. The majority on here writing comments have great horses the horses
that are not in jeopardy of going to slaughter. But when you get a horse the
breaks your arm and kills your kid, you don't use it for breeding stock becuase
there is no other options. Another terrible opinion is that everyone thinks the
horse market it terrible. Well, maybe it is for the people with their grade
sorrel mare and grade stud selling $10 colts. The good horses are and always
will bring decent money. This market it temporaily down just to clean up all the
want to be breeders. It is eliminating the "weekend warriors" horse
breeders. When you run livestock such as horses you cannot keep everyone that is
junk. That is loss of profits and runs you out of business....
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 7:38 PM
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Wyoming
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There
is a real need for folks to educate themselves about horses slaughter by the
posts I am reading here.
First, the
horses that are sent to slaughter are not unwanted horses. 93% of horses going
to slaughter are under 10 years of age, sound and healthy (USDA statistics).
Slaughter plants don't want old, sick, skinny horses tat are lame and cannot
travel, no money in that! This is a money making game and kill buyers have a
quota to fill. They will get these horses using any means including deception to
fool innocent horse owners into thinking that they will give the horse a good
home, (much documented on this fact). They run ads saying that their
granddaughter needs a horse, and they don't have a granddaughter, they tell
people that they will be going to 4h homes, they pretend to be a rescue and
deceive well meaning people into thinking that the horse is going to a good home
and little girls take their horses to the sale all washed up, clipped with their
manes braided and a new halter thinking they will get good homes (fact), horses
are stolen, anything to get enough for a load to make it a worthwhile trip for
the Kill buyer.
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 7:18 PM
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Montana
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I
love horses, own 2 of them, and am for horse slaughter, if it is done humanely
and if the meat is not sold for human consumption (because you don't know where
these horses have been or what they have eaten or what drugs they have been
given, and simply because it makes slaughter, which I think is necessary, less
palatable to Americans). People tend to assign human characteristics to animals,
but they are animals. I've read anti-slaughter sentiment about horses being
"scared to death" while "waiting their turn" at slaughter
houses. They might be somewhat distressed because they are not in familiar
surroundings, but they don't know what awaits them. If it is done humanely it is
not much of a different experience for the horse, from having a vet "put
them down". If the meat can be used to produce animal feed, leather goods,
etc, that's a good use of resources. It seems that most of the arguments against
it are based on human emotion than practicality or even what is best for the
horses.
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 6:22 PM
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Wyoming
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I
think this is awful and I will fight it anyway possible . if people would stop
breeding so many horses we really wouldnt be looking at this issue
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 4:16 PM
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Wyoming
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I'm
not entirely sure I am for horse slaughter. I know something has to be done with
unwanted, abused and starving horses. If this horse slaughter facility will for
sure be a humane slaughter then I feel a little better about it. I just hope we
are not being lied to. At least we won't be sending our animals to
Mexico
and
Canada
where their fate is much worse!
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 3:07 PM
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Pennsylvania
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I
am firmly against the practice of horse slaughter, whether in the
U.S.
,
Canada
, Europe,
Asia
. Period! No ifs, no ands, no buts.
Carole I. Bailis
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 2:28 PM
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Iowa
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Great
Job, it's about time something like this was proposed, i hope will all my heart
this go through.
I have owned horses all my life, i think they are the best animal to have
around, our country was built on horse back, but we still need to have a
slaughter plant. Keep up the good work. Maybe you can bring an end to the
suffering of these animals. People who fight against it really have no clue.
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 1:20 PM
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California
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Bravo,
it's about time more realistic people were heard. No one ever addresses the
issue that horses are "domestic" animals and have been since man stood
upright. You wouldn't let you dogs "run free". Bring them all in, they
have no business running loose in arid states that cannot sustain them. As
domestic animals we all have a duty to provide for and protect them, not let
them roam around starving. Nothing moves faster than a horse a little over
hundred years ago, they were the backbone of our country, and now animal lovers
with little knowledge of the needs of horses want them running free. They are
not even native to this continent, bring them all in and save them.
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 12:12 PM
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Washington
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Good
luck to all the proponents of the
Wyoming
and other future plants. I have seen first hand the habitat damage ferel horses
have done on Washington State Tribal lands and have seen how difficult it is to
find homes for them. Most are simply not suitable and when "push comes to
shove" there will NEVER be enough homes for them no matter what the
"antis" say. There is always lots of lip service but, in the end, too
many horses remain on the wild lands and those lands are being destroyed...for
both the horses AND the NATIVE wildlife.
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 11:59 AM
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Minnesota
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This
plant is needed for the humane treatment of horses - thank you
Wyoming
for taking the lead on this.
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 11:56 AM
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Oklahoma
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It's
about time some *common sense* was applied to the unwanted equine issue in the
U.S.
This plan makes lots of sense. The comments against it are stale,
emotionally-based attacks, and they are irrelevant red herrings.
What caused
the problems with equines, just as with other unwanted animals (that are not in
the human food chain), are economic issues (look at the current unemployment in
the
U.S.
) AND the influence of the "animal rights" industry (e.g., H$U$) in
closing slaughter plants and again playing on emotions (rather than facts) in
order to diminish equine value, turn horse owners against each other, and turn
the public against the horse industry (just as they are trying to do to American
livestock producers), and set up future *control* of equine ownership and bans
on breeding. The animal rights movement is a *social movement*, not a *humane
movement*.
The H$U$ is
NOT an "animal welfare" or "animal protection" organization.
They are a *factory-fundraising* anti-animal-use and anti-societal ANIMAL RIGHTS
organization dedicated to forcing society to accept their values of no animal
use (and going vegan). Why would anyone listen to this group's "propaganda
mill" BIG LIES? They are *inhumane* to people, and that should sure be a
first clue to their true agenda! There are LOTS of websites out there exposing
the H$U$, and there are lawsuits in the works (RICO, 1983 civil rights), and IRS
investigation of illegal lobbying by a 501c3 happening now.
THINK for
yourselves, people.
Don't follow the AR movement like sheeple!
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 11:45 AM
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Texas
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I
love my horses and will have my own humanely euthanized and buried, but the
slaughter plants are needed so badly. I would much rather that my beloved animal
be destroyed in a regulated plant than left to die of illness, injury,
starvation, or predators. The people that are against the plants have no real
knowledge of how the ban has punished the horses and horse owners. I hope that
several more plants get opened throughout the country.
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 11:24 AM
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North Dakota
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Most
people are at least three generations off the farm or ranch (if they ever were
on one in the first place) and truly have a distorted idea of the reality of
life with livestock. I say if there is a demand for horse meat..... great. That
demand will raise the base market price and help all other ends of the industry
not just those involved in slaughter. Right now
Canada
and
Mexico
are laughing at us all the way to the bank as they butcher American horses.
I
live in the real equine world , as do most people I know. I mean on real working
farms and ranches. Where livestock is just that...livestock. I appreciate all
those who love their horses and want the best for them. I do also. But not all
horses are destined for that perfect "Disney type" life...and you
cannot save them all. There has to be an outlet....an outlet that is conducive
to actual common sense. Not the ravings of bleeding heart idiots.
Remember,
those who pushed to close these plants actually created the problem , let us
kick them to the curb and get things back on track. I may or may not choose not
to sell my horse or horses to slaughter , but I want that to be MY choice as an
American.
Glad to see
Wyoming
is getting it done!
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 11:24 AM
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Oregon
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Having
owned horses for more than 50 years and seen so many neglected, starving,
crippled and sick horses suffering since the closing of the few slaughter plants
which were in the
US
, I am TOTALLY in favor of
Wyoming
's future plant. Hopefully several more states will get 'brave' and stand up for
the humanity of putting a horse down that is suffering or vicious, etc. and not
let the 'bleeding-hearts' get in their way. Many of the equine rescues too have
ended up not being able to 'save or rehome' thousands of horses which in all
honesty, would be better OFF as a food source for animals or humans. It seems
STUPID that people are starving to death in other countries and we are basically
wasting an excellent source of protein to sustain life.
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 11:21 AM
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Texas
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Hallelujah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Common sense and logic prevail!
I own 14
head of mares and while I love them - they are livestock first and foremost.
Thank you
Wyoming
for your backbone, honesty and forthcoming in acting on this! God Bless and
Keep you.
A Kindred Spirit in
Texas
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 11:06 AM
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Virginia
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It
is long overdue and I am so hopeful that
Wyoming
's lead will be followed throughout the country. No one will be obligated to
send their horses to slaughter but those who wish to will have that
option---sounds very democratic to me. And certainly since horse slaughter is
endorsed by the American Association of Equine Practitioners as well as many
horse breed registries and associations, I say "Let's get on with it."
Good for
Wyoming
!
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 10:51 AM
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Oregon
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Having
raised Morgan horses for over 40 years and being a third generation breeder, I
feel relieved that a humane facility is in the works. I noticed that some of the
anti-comments are from folks speaking from their emotions and not from common
sense. If the facility is run to be humane to the animals, what is better than
that? What we have had since the old system closed down was what the
anti-slaughter advocates succeeded in doing, and how benficial was that? Horses
starving out on public lands?
One of
these plants in every state of the
Union
would be so good for horses. Until folks quit breeding indiscriminately, and
until the goverrnment gets straightened out so Americans can get out of
financial straits, we will have unwanted horses. That's just a fact. So let's
take care of the situation as humanely as possible. When a horse is dead, it
makes a source of meat that can feed other life, whether it's our pet dogs,
animals in zoos, or we humans. The French know horsemeat to be very succulent,
so perhaps we need to change our belief system on that subject. If folks eat
beef, chicken, or pork, perhaps they should go see where those meats come from,
before they get queasy over horsemeat.
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 10:47 AM
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Nebraska
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WHOO
RAY!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's about time people got there heads out of there you know
what's and I give Sue BIG THUMBS UP!!!!! We have got to get control of this
horse thing so it doesn't end up like the dogs and cats.
If people
would remember when horse meat was used for dog feed we didn't have this
sickness in our dogs and I sold horses I had to put down (for one reason or
another) to the Zoo years ago (actually gave) and they were happy to get the
meat. It is NATURE/the order of things so to speak.
It is going
to help not only take care of a lot of unwanted horses but it is going to keep A
LOT of horses from starving. I feel it is more humane to slaughter than to leave
one out in a pasture starving and with ribs showing.
It will
also help the horse industry financially. I know people think that horses are
"lap dogs" (1000 lb. ones) but they are a livestock and should be
treated as such.
I have been in the horse business, professionally for 33 years, and in the horse
industry all my life (58 years old). They have been good to me and as such I
have been good to them BUT they still are a livestock.
I want to
give all Sue all the greatest of everything for getting this done. We need to
elect her our next president!!!! YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!!
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 10:43 AM
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Minnesota
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This
is a wonderful plan. I hope they can put many more in operation.
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 10:34 AM
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Wyoming
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I
See Nothing wrong with a humane horse slaughter plant. We need this because of
all the unwanted, abandoned horses in the
Western United States
.
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 10:33 AM
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Michigan
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I
amall for the human slaughter of horses. to those opposing this please lget a
life! your mundane and simple wrong headed "reasoning" is getting old.
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 9:47 AM
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Idaho
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THANK
YOU! For being gutsy enough to build a slaughter plant for horses!
Don't
get me wrong - I have loved horses all my life. I raise horses for Endurance,
Trail and Show.
The
simple fact is, we need a base price on these animals for our economic health as
well as a place to go for the unwanted horses. Something the antislaughter group
is very careful not to tell the public is how well fed and cared for slaughter
animals are. Who is going to get any meat off of a starving animal? These horses
last days are full of food, plenty of fresh water and are in social groups. Just
thought I would mention it since no one else has. A quick painless death at the
end - I hope I am as lucky to go that way!
Sincerely,
BL
Hersh
Sweet
,
ID
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 8:55 AM
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Wyoming
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All
for it!!!
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Tue,
Sep 7, 2010 8:06 AM
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Montana
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I
am a 4th generation rancher in
Montana
that has been raising horses. I like my horses very much, but I don't fall in
love with them. They are my livestock. I enjoy seeing other people doing great
things while riding and owning horses that I have raised. Not all horses make it
to that level, there needs to be a place for them to go. We cannot keep all bad
or old horses. It is cruel punishment for a good horse to be left until he can
no longer get up and panic and bang his head against the ground until he dies.
As long as there are people with nothing to eat and people that prefer horse
meat we should provide a humane way for that to be achieved.
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Mon,
Sep 6, 2010 11:27 PM
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California
- No. 2 in equine business
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You
all know horses. They are prey animals. Their sensese are miles beyond anything
perception you think you have about keeping the dlaughter a secret. The only way
a horse should be slaughtered is by injection at its home site and transported
as a carcas. Opening this plant with holding pens, sales (which necessitate
running the horses from pen to pen to transport vehicle will only stress and
antyagonize the horse. Gathering live animals is only an invitation for
unscrupulous profiteers to pack horses together and bring them in bulk. Throwing
multitudes of horses together who do not have a social history causes kicking,
biting and crowding. Feeding becomes a disaster. Your plan is defunct and
outlawed by Congress just 2 years ago. Finding a loophole to again profit off
the flesh of your bonded animals is disgusting. It is no wonder we have elder
and child abuse. Yes, you need to rethink your ethical relationship and stop
rationalizing destruction.
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Mon,
Sep 6, 2010 9:40 PM
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Montana
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Never
seems to amaze me how so many people dont care for horses on this forum..
1. They promoted jobs to illegals.
2. They didnt pay Gross Income Taxes as most American business are subject too.
3. They didnt pay Tariff tax on exports as most American business are subject
too.
4. They operated illegal ignoring and breaking a 1949 Tx law to NOT SLAUGHTER
HORSES.
5. They lied to the public claiming these are old and sick horses.
6. They hide the truth about the drugs in horses (Brute,Wormers,Steriods etc.)
7. Beltex didnt shut down and moved to
Mexico
they existed in
Mexico
in the case the Tx plants were ever to be exposed and shut down.
8. Pro slaughter lie about plants being outlawed in the
US
. They merely lost there funding to have USDA inspectors.
9. The amount of slaughtered horses are based on the demand NOT the amount of
horses in the
US
that are Unsold NOT Unwanted.
10 Supporters of Horse slaughter are the ones making money (killers,Auctioneers,Haulers,OverBreeders,
Organizations that rewards for papers such as the AQHA and others.)
11. To date None of these above Organizations or parties support,promote, or
donate to any horse rescues in the
US
.
12. The Economy has hurt all sales ( Cars, Trucks, Homes, Land, Vacations)
13. Pro slaughter are only worried about there pocket books not the true care of
the horses.
14. According to the (FOIA) Freedom of Informations Acts 900 page clearly shows
the condition horses arrive at the Plants in
Texas
.
15. Horse Slaughter is merely a reward for Irresponsible, Greedy, hateful people
to profit.
If you
think Im making all this stuff up do your own research.. If you still dont think
so then BOO HOO get over it..
Call a
rescue and support or donate to them..
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Mon,
Sep 6, 2010 8:22 PM
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Montana
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Thank
You, I live in
Montana
and raise a few good Registered Quarter Horses. Every State needs to look at
what you're doing and follow your lead so there is a humane end & place for
all the unwanted, abused, neglected, old, hurt horses that have no where to go.
Keep up the good work!!!!
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Mon,
Sep 6, 2010 12:18 PM
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Wyoming
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I
and my family have owned and operated a guest ranch, outfitting and hunting
business in
Wyoming
for 115 years. We also miantained a herd of of wonderful horses and mules
ranging from 75 to 150 head, on a year round basis. A well operated humane horse
slaughter facility is unmistakeably and absolutely neccessary to the nationwide
health and future maintenence of the general horse populations?
Since the
gradual bands on U.S. horse slaughter has began to show the real consequences in
store for unwanted, unuseable, unbroke and ferral horses; anyone opposed to
humane horse slaughter facilities needs a guided tour of the numerous and
appauling circumstances developing for thousands of horses who are unable to
make a positive contribution to humanity, and consequently, their own care and
survival? Those in opposition would rather turn their heads while thousands of
horses, mules and burros, spend months slowly starving to death or succumming to
the extremes of the elements?
We can talk
and politic for the next century, the options to reducing reproduction, closing
numbers and feeding the unwanted? If they could actually be implemented, they
may help temporasrily, but they will never save the life of the unwanted, just
postone it until he faces the same dreadful options mentioned above? It is time
for fuzzy little animal lovers to come out of their "COMA" and see
reality!
Thank You,
Irv Lozier
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Mon,
Sep 6, 2010 11:21 AM
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Washington
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i
think it is wonderful. it is a much more humane way to treat horses that are no
longer wanted or afforable than to abandon, abuse or starve them.
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Mon,
Sep 6, 2010 11:06 AM
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Washington
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We
need a plant in every state and the larger longer states need two to help save
the horses from the stress of a long drive especially if they are older or
infirm. I am very fortunate that I have a facility still in my area but know how
it must be for those who have no other options. The no-slaughter bill is very
unfair to the horses and the people. It is time to wake up! We can put together
a safe and humane facility and employ lots of people. We need to make sure we
hire the right sort of individuals to operate these facilities that won't cheap
out at the horses expense or be bought off by politicians or foreign interests.
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Sun,
Sep 5, 2010 6:45 PM
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Idaho
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I
think the plant is a good thing. There are many horses around that are starving
to death as people do not want to feed them, or can not afford to feed them. I
raise and love horses, there are some that need to find a different place
though. The plant would be a more humane way in dealing with the unwanted,
untended horses. If the zoos, and others can use the meat, I feel it is no
different that raising and slaughtering a cow, pig, or lamb. It would be good
for mthe economy and it would bring the price on horses back up where they
belong. The plant would get rid of the horses that are lame with Navicular,
blown tendons, that are old and have no use left. It is better than letting the
horses suffer. It is more inhumane to let a horse that is hurting keep hurting.
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Sun,
Sep 5, 2010 1:06 PM
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Montana
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It's
about time - long overdue. This is what I have been advocating for some time.
Ity will be great for us to be a model for the rest of the world by having a
facility that humanely, ethically, and practically disposes of unwanted,
injured, dangerous, or old horses that are no longer useful or can't be properly
cared for. I own 20 horses myself and have 5 or 6 in their 20's that to me
deserve a nice retirement. But when the time comes I am so happy to have an
alternative choice to end their life in a humane way and knowing that their meat
will be used. I applaud
Wyoming
for having the courage and vision to move forward on this issue. I hope some
other states follow suit. I live in
Montana
and if this plant works out as advertised could be a model and inspiration for
other states to implement a similiar facility with the same safeguards and
humane approach.
Cheryl Palmer,
Montana
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Sun,
Sep 5, 2010 9:26 AM
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Idaho
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I
am all for this. I have had horses, mules and donkeys since I was 15yrs old (I
am now 70) and, now that the granola-crunching do-gooders are running the show,
I see more neglect than ever before for my equine friends. The animals AND their
people need this option--not turning them loose on Federal lands to die slowly
or of preditation.
Bless you good
Wyoming
folks for having the backbone to tackle this situation. Go for it!
Bonnie Shields,
Sandpoint
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ID
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Sun,
Sep 5, 2010 12:10 AM
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Idaho
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It
is possible to build and run a humane slaughter plant, just as it is possible to
humanely raise animals for meat and slaughter them. Horse abuse, through
ignorance, neglect, thoughtlessness, and lack of money to properly care for them
is a fact. There are too many horses in need.
There will never be enough "rescue" facilities to meet the need, bless
those that try.
Part of the problem of excess horses is the economy that devastates their
owners. Part of the problem is that part of the industry that breeds
"disposable" horses that don't meet the industry's criteria for
successful use and often cripples the failures in the process. There is also the
problem created by "horse lovers" that have to breed that backyard
mare without planning for the training of the resulting foal into a usable
horse.
That older horse past use...most of the horsemen I know have at least one old
pensioned friend in their pasture. But then they are horsemen and horsewomen,
not just horse owners.
There are crippled horses that will never be out of pain, there are dangerous
horses, some with genetic caused problems, some by nature, some by nurture. We
need a humane solution for those horses who are not owned by horsemen who accept
the responsibility for making the decision that the time has come. Refusing to
admit what has to be done will keep these horses and other salvagable ones too
in the trucks headed for
Mexico
, beyond all humane control.
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Sat,
Sep 4, 2010 11:41 PM
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Montana
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I
am pro slaughter plant. my, horses are my pets, but when they have run there
usefullness, example founder, i would rather cash in than exterminate and bury.
also cull horses, unwanted and untrained can be turned to economic usefullness
unstead of a liability. i do have a mare that raised my kids and she is still on
the place at age 25
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Sat,
Sep 4, 2010 9:40 PM
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Montana
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I
think it is a great idea and long overdue...
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Sat,
Sep 4, 2010 9:38 PM
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E
Washington
& I own 21 horses
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I
think it's a great idea!!!!! Not only will it create jobs for people but the
facility would be closely monitored by various agencies and groups to provide
the most humane treatment possible. With hay prices high and horse prices low it
gives owners/breeders an option for the horses they can no longer afford to
keep. It's a lot better way to end a horses life then to turn it loose in a
National Park or
Nat.
Forest
and let them starve to death. An equine slaughter plant is a much better
alternative for a horse then to be abandoned and starve to death.
It is also an excellent solution for BLM to use for the excess
"mustangs" that are currently being kept alive every year by thousands
and thousands of taxpayers dollars. In our current economic situation the
government should conserve where ever it can. Horses are only one of the
thousands of species God put on the earth for our use and it is our
responsibility to see that their lives are ended as humanely as possible and
their carcasses put to the best use.
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Sat,
Sep 4, 2010 3:54 PM
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Utah
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Yes,
yes, yes, yes, yes.
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Sat,
Sep 4, 2010 10:16 AM
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Colorado
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Certainly
better than
Canada
or
Mexico
where we have no control and know it is inhumane. Also preferable to letting
them starve or whatever.
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Sat,
Sep 4, 2010 9:23 AM
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Montana
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As
long as they do remember that this is to be humane and not a money making place
to get rid of your horse to make a buck on them. I think we do need some place
to send unwanted and untrainable horses to be put down. No matter how you try to
keep the horse from knowing that they will be put down near the slaughter house,
they will know. And thet will have trouble with the horses. I hope for there
success.
Jim
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MT.
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Sat,
Sep 4, 2010 8:48 AM
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Colorado
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This
plant is necessary to the horse world. I raise cattle, sheep and horses on range
land and my horses are the most prolific and can survive the severe weather
conditions the best of all these species. Even though I enjoy my horses, not all
of them will make suitable mounts or even pets. I allow them to live long lives
on the range running free and being horses. I would rather they be processed
humanely than to die a natural death at the end of their lives. Old age,
starvation and predators are brutal ways to die. I also think it is a waste to
"put them down" and not have them contribute to the natural cycle
nature intended them to follow. Even humans opt to be organ donors. It shows
more respect to utilize the bodies than to just let them rot. My horses enjoy
lives where they run free across the prairie however it is costly to run them on
pastures where I can realize an income with cattle. A plant like this would help
me recover some lost income when I have to reduce my herd. People who would
protest this type of plant have no concept of horses or their place in nature. I
don't know if they are the ones who can watch the lions killing the zebras or
starving to death on the nature channel and feel that these are much better ways
to die. Maybe we could sign them up for a similar demise. I know nature is not
kind and I would prefer a quick end than the alternatives suggested by so-called
"horse lovers" who are really irrational thinkers.
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Sat,
Sep 4, 2010 8:35 AM
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Idaho
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We
are so in need of the slaughter plant in
Wyoming
. There are so many old, useless animals that are through with their lives and
need to be humanely put down. There are many individuals that cannot afford to
have the vet do it and then pay to have the carcass hauled away, even if they
are attached to the animal, then they become neglected and abandoned or turned
out with the wild horses, their fate is much worse then than if they were
humanely put down.
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Sat,
Sep 4, 2010 7:47 AM
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Montana
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I
am so glad someone is going forward with this in a humane way. Thanks!
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Fri,
Sep 3, 2010 11:43 PM
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Washington
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I
support this hollistic approach to the unwanted horse problem. This has become
the only livestock animal for which there is no realistic end-of-life option
currently and no way to dispose of them when they are unwanted.
It's time to move beyond the popluar
romantic notion of being able to provide a loving and supportive home for every
equine. I salute Ms. Grandin for coming up with a workable, intelligent solution
to bridge both sides of the controversy. It is long overdue and desparately
needed. Thank you.
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Fri,
Sep 3, 2010 11:31 PM
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Colorado
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Slaughter
plants should be allowed to operate. Using horse products is no different then
any other animal and it does not and should not mean that we do not respect this
animal. It's a shame that that a small group of people has decided that other
people can not use horse products. The huge cost of care for unwanted horses and
mustangs in our country is costing the taxpayers millions of dollars each year,
The folks that believe the horse should be exempt from being used for slaughter
should flip the bill for the huge cost of feeding an over population of horses.
It's their resposibility. I don't understand why some people believe the horse
is more inportant then other speices we humans consume. What makes the horse
different from the cow, or fish, or pig, or any other speices we use as humans.
All life is important. I own 30 horses and they are all a part of my life. Some
have even earned retirement benifits. Horses are a part of my life every day but
I still believe peaple should be able to use the horse as a resouce. We are so
concerned about giving every horse a special human right while I read in the
news paper that last years winter killed 16 homeless people in
Grand Junction
Colorado
. We lock folks up in jail for leaving their dog out all night but we let
homeless people die of exposure without lefting a finger. Maybe we should all be
thrown in jail. Thanks Shawn Welder
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Fri,
Sep 3, 2010 10:46 PM
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Montana
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I
think it is a good idea to have a humane slaughter plant for horses. I am a
horse owner, trainer and breeder and have also rescued a number of horses in my
lifetime. I know that sometimes it would be better for certain horses to be put
down, either as a kindness for the horse or for safety reasons (not all horses
are born kind) but it is not an easy decision to make. Knowing that your
animal/friend will be in a humane situation when the end comes can make it
easier. I also feel once the spark of life has left I would rather know there is
still something useful for that horse to be. I think food for other animals or
even people is a better end than food for worms.
Sincerely,
Cynthia Preston
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Fri,
Sep 3, 2010 9:42 PM
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Washington
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This
is needed and should be opened up to the purchase of horses and other animals.
We need a way to remove the unneeded animals.
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Fri,
Sep 3, 2010 8:05 PM
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Washington
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Absolutely
needed...in every state!
It irritates the hell out of me when legislatures bend and cower to the
barking anti-everythings, then we have to go a long circle to return to proven
ways and practices that work for the industry and the animals.
Do-gooders do bad and livestock
owners pay for it for years while animals suffer needlessly.
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Fri,
Sep 3, 2010 6:44 PM
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Idaho
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It
is well beyond time that this happens. We can't continue to live in a fairy tale
world where the public believes that all horses get to live happily ever after,
when in reality, many starve to death like the little match box girl. I would
much prefer that the end of a life be swift and productive. Wish they were up
and running now.
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Fri,
Sep 3, 2010 6:30 PM
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Montana
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I
certainly hope it goes through and states like
Montana
follow suite for the horses sake!
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